Jon, I may be wrong. I liked his quote but I failed to add the context proceeding the last sentence
"The time of getting fame for your name on its own is over. Artwork that is only about wanting to be famous will never make you famous. Any fame is a by-product of making something that means something"
As Kombinat! noise making machine is - where indeed the shit is what we are after as an end result thus the enjoyment of a fine meal in a restaurant a byproduct.
In a postcapitalist era and in the age of managerial capitalistm (as you mentioned) the results are earnings per share, these are the only ones that count. Value Creation reduced to a number. Only a non-owner could come up with such a KaKa way of seeing the world.